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Heatpump Model and Installer Research

August 2022, we are looking into buying and installing one or more heatpumps for our oil-heated forced-hot-water home to reduce our winter oil use and to give us some cooling during the summer heat/humidity.

Heat pump installers

CommenterCompanyContact infoComments
AS MS WRNETR Heating and Cooling Systems (Woburn)https://www.netrinc.com/ 781-933-6387 Good tech service & knowledgeable technicians
MMMuirfield Electric (Ayer)https://muirfieldmechanical.com/ 978-263-7130did what they said they'd do, on schedule, middle-of-road price, no extra fuss
RK128 Heating and Plumbing (Wakefield)https://www.128plumbing.com/ 781-670-3261(annoying website, can't get rid of stuff covering info)
AWCentral Cooling and Heating (Woburn)https://centralcooling.com/ 800-236-8725they did rebate paperwork, good company.
RR CL JLTotal Comfort (Burlington)https://www.totalcomfortmech.com/lexington 781-999-1275, 781-697-9016Good consultation, communication. helped w/MassSave
JL MANetZero Heating and Air Conditioning (Billerica)https://netzerohvac.net/ 888-306-3893
WTNew England Ductless (Boston)https://www.newenglandductless.com/ 781-995-2665

Heat pump devices

Mitsubishihigh demand, long lead times (8+ months?)
Bosch
Daikin
LGOne Lex List member reported issues with non-LG thermostat; system would stay on, but this might be related to the usage learning curve; pressure relief valve issue; be sure to verify experience of installers and techs
Samsung

Concerns to address

  • Will your electrical feed need to be upgraded? (If you have 200 Amp service, will that be enough to support one or more heat pumps?)
  • Temperature range. Make sure your units can handle the temps in our area (eg, -20 to 110F)
  • Will the unit work with your existing thermostat or must it be replaced?
  • Will (and if so how will) heat pump work with existing home heating system?
  • Verify experience of Installers and Tech support

Ideas

  • Get wall units for rooms with doors you can close (to isolate heat/cool to the room)
  • Heat pump for your hot water. will chill your basement if it's in the basement

Analysis & Comparison, heat pump vs oil boiler

We got a quote from a company for the cost of a whole-house solution. There are two rebates available to us, approx $5k since we're going whole-house, and $10k if we also sign an agreement that we will only use oil heat in an emergency.

Description of quoted system: TBD

Assumptions

We have an oil-fueled boiler forced hot water heating system. We have a single window air conditioner that the heat pumps would replace. Here are the cost factors for our situation.

“Heatpump” is cost of heat pumps installed. “Heatpump w/agreement” is when we also sign an agreement saying we will only use oil to heat the house in an emergency.

HeatpumpHeatpump w/agreementOil Boiler only (current situation)
Equipment23000180000cost of added equipment
Maintenance/yr835200
Electricity increment estimate/yr120012000assuming extra $100/month for heat pumps
Est cost oil, 700gal/yr, $4/gal100 gal@$4/gal=400 100 gal@$4/gal 700 gal@$4/gal=2800need oil to heat hot water

Also assuming for the purpose of this analysis:

  • Energy costs stay the same over the analysis period (oil and electricity)
  • Maintenance costs stay the same over the analysis period
  • We are not considering electricity savings by using heat pumps over the one window air conditioner we're using

Cost analysis

Heatpumpheatpump w/big rebateOil
EQUIPMENT cost23000180000
heatpump maintenance635635
oil boiler maintenance200200200
MAINTENANCE cost/yr835835200
electr incremement $/mo100100
gallons oil/year100100700
oil cost/gal444
ENERGY COST/yr160016002800
TOTAL COST END OF YEAR
125435204353000
227870228706000
5351753017515000
10473504235030000
15595255452545000
20717006670060000
25838757887575000
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