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 ====How to create hard-to-guess passwords==== ====How to create hard-to-guess passwords====
-If a human is going to guess the password then make it unhuman.  Consider: a password "safe" Here are some free alternatives.  From [[https://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/the-best-password-manager-1325845|Tech RadarThe best free password manager 2019]] with updates I took from the application sites 20211129\\  +If a human is going to guess the password then make it unhuman.  Consider: a password "safe" Here are some alternatives, many are free or have free options.\\   
-Also see [[https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/331555/the-best-free-password-managers|PC Magazine's picks]]\\  +You can also do a DuckDuckGo (or Google if you're still using Google) search for "Best Password Managers" and look for those with recent information.
-Do a DuckDuckGo (or Google if you're still using Google) search for "Best Password Managers" and look for those with recent information.+
  
 //All of these offer login and text note storage in a secure vault protected by your master password, and can generate (and store) strong passwords.// //All of these offer login and text note storage in a secure vault protected by your master password, and can generate (and store) strong passwords.//
  
-//Following data updated 10/9/2022.  There are MANY other options, these are a few.  You should study all of the features and drawbacks of any option you consider or select.//+//Following data updated 2/25/2025.  There are MANY other options, these are a few.  You should study all of the features and drawbacks of any option you consider or select as information may change.//
 ^Manager^Free version.  ^Paid version.  ^Cost.  ^platforms^ ^Manager^Free version.  ^Paid version.  ^Cost.  ^platforms^
 |[[https://www.lastpass.com/|www.lastpass.com]] |Access on one device type (computer or mobile) |1GB encrypted cloud storage\\ Multifactor Authentication (MFA)\\ Contingency plan (loved one access in emergency) |Free for one device type; $36/yr 1 user, $48/yr 6 users (group and share items, family manager)|Browser based. Win, Mac, Linux, Mobile| |[[https://www.lastpass.com/|www.lastpass.com]] |Access on one device type (computer or mobile) |1GB encrypted cloud storage\\ Multifactor Authentication (MFA)\\ Contingency plan (loved one access in emergency) |Free for one device type; $36/yr 1 user, $48/yr 6 users (group and share items, family manager)|Browser based. Win, Mac, Linux, Mobile|
-|[[https://www.dashlane.com/|www.dashlane.com]]|One device, secure sharing|unlimited devices, 1GB max, VPN| Free; $60/yr or $90/yr (10 accts)|Browser based.  Win, Mac, iOS, Android|+|[[https://www.dashlane.com/|www.dashlane.com]]|One device, secure sharing|unlimited devices, 1GB max, VPN| Free (1 device, 25 passwords); $48/yr (many devices, passwords, and passkeys)|Browser based.  Win, Mac, iOS, Android|
 |[[https://keepersecurity.com|keepersecurity.com]]|no free option|(Personal) no limits on storage, devices, sharing; (family) 5 vaults, 10GB secure storage|Personal $35/yr, Family $75/yr|App: Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android; Browser extension| |[[https://keepersecurity.com|keepersecurity.com]]|no free option|(Personal) no limits on storage, devices, sharing; (family) 5 vaults, 10GB secure storage|Personal $35/yr, Family $75/yr|App: Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android; Browser extension|
-|[[https://www.roboform.com/lp?frm=everywhere-offer&rec=TechRadar&dc=TR30&affid=a6277|www.roboform.com]]|one device |sync across devices, cloud backup, web access. Family plan is 5 users.|Personal: $16.68/1yr, $45.14/3yr, $69.60/5yr\\ Family: $33.40/1yr, $90.20/3yr, $139.30/5yr|Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, Linux, Chromebook, Browsers| +|[[https://www.roboform.com|www.roboform.com]]|one device |sync across devices, cloud backup, web access. Family plan is 5 users.|website lists prices in Pounds.\\ Personal: $16.68/1yr, $45.14/3yr, $69.60/5yr\\ Family: $33.40/1yr, $90.20/3yr, $139.30/5yr|Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, Linux, Chromebook, Browsers| 
-|[[https://bitwarden.com/|bitwarden.com]]|Unlimited pw, devices | 2FA, emergency access, share w/1-6 people | $10/yr one user, $40/yr up to 6 users |Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android, Browsers|+|[[https://bitwarden.com/|bitwarden.com]]|Unlimited pw, passkeys, devices | 2FA, emergency access, share w/1-6 people | $10/yr one user, $40/yr up to 6 users |Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android, Browsers|
 |[[https://1password.com/]]|no free version, only paid, 2wk free trial|unlimited pw & devices, 1GB storage, 2FA.|Individual: $36/yr, Families (5 family members): $60/yr|Mac, Win, Linux, iOS, Android, Browsers| |[[https://1password.com/]]|no free version, only paid, 2wk free trial|unlimited pw & devices, 1GB storage, 2FA.|Individual: $36/yr, Families (5 family members): $60/yr|Mac, Win, Linux, iOS, Android, Browsers|
-|[[https://nordpass.com/]]|unlimited pw, notes also, credit cards|emergency access |Premium $24/yr, Family (6 accts) $60/yr|Win, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, Browsers|+|[[https://nordpass.com/]]|unlimited pw, notes also, credit cards|emergency access, multiple device access |Premium $20/yr, Family (6 accts) $44/yr|Win, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, Browsers|
 |[[https://keepass.info/]]\\ [[https://keepassxc.org/download/|KeePassXC]]|* Can run from USB\\ * Many customizable options\\ * A little intimidating? You judge.|FOSS((FOSS=Free, Open-Source Software)) - there is no paid version -- all features in free version\\ Many ports, with different features and UI|Note, no cost. Does not provide place to store the Password Safe, that's up to you|Windows, Android, iPhone/iPad, Mac, Chromebook, Blackberry, Linux, and more| |[[https://keepass.info/]]\\ [[https://keepassxc.org/download/|KeePassXC]]|* Can run from USB\\ * Many customizable options\\ * A little intimidating? You judge.|FOSS((FOSS=Free, Open-Source Software)) - there is no paid version -- all features in free version\\ Many ports, with different features and UI|Note, no cost. Does not provide place to store the Password Safe, that's up to you|Windows, Android, iPhone/iPad, Mac, Chromebook, Blackberry, Linux, and more|
 KeePassXC is a KeePass port, see Tech Radar's review: [[https://www.techradar.com/reviews/keepassxc]]. It's free but accepts donations. KeePassXC is a KeePass port, see Tech Radar's review: [[https://www.techradar.com/reviews/keepassxc]]. It's free but accepts donations.
  
 Refs:  Refs: 
 +  * [[https://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/the-best-password-manager-1325845|Tech Radar, The best free password manager 2019]]
 +  * [[https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/331555/the-best-free-password-managers|PC Magazine's picks]]
   * [[https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-password-managers]]   * [[https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-password-managers]]
   * [[https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/]]   * [[https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/]]
   * [[https://www.techradar.com/best/password-manager]] a good site for reviews of offerings   * [[https://www.techradar.com/best/password-manager]] a good site for reviews of offerings
   * [[https://www.techradar.com/reviews/keepassxc]] TechRadar's review of KeePassXC   * [[https://www.techradar.com/reviews/keepassxc]] TechRadar's review of KeePassXC
 +
 +====My Recommendations====
 +If you're looking for a fast answer...here's my thoughts
 +  - KeePass on iCloud or Box.  (You're in full control of your passwords and who can see them and are relatively immune to data breaches.)
 +    * You need to be willing to learn to use KeePass and set up cloud storage.
 +  - BitWarden.  Free version is a good solution and it's turnkey.
 +    * Possibility of a breach, see 'Caveat' below.
 +
 +I am interested in your thoughts on these, and other, possibilities you like! 
  
 ====Caveat==== ====Caveat====
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     * On iPhone and iPad: KeePass Touch     * On iPhone and iPad: KeePass Touch
     * On Android:     * On Android:
-    * On Windows:+    * On Windows: KeePassXC
   * Store password file in iCloud   * Store password file in iCloud
   * Copy password file to local Document storage on each device (so it's available when there's no internet)   * Copy password file to local Document storage on each device (so it's available when there's no internet)
-  * Copy password file to Dropbox, pCloud (as backup)+  * Copy password file to Box (free cloud storageand Dropbox, for redundancy. 
  
 To note: To note:
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   * Available on all my devices   * Available on all my devices
   * One password to remember   * One password to remember
-  * I can use long and complex passwords+  * I can use long and complex passwords (and KeePass helps me create them and tells how secure they are)
   * Can keep a history of past passwords   * Can keep a history of past passwords
 +  * I can store other information in the vault, like those recovery passwords "what's your father's middle name" so I can use a fake un-guessable answer
  
 Using a password manager: Using a password manager:
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