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--- evconsiderations [2025.01.24 11:18] – Steve Isenberg
+++ evconsiderations [2025.01.25 05:40] (current) – [Electric Cars for Seniors] Steve Isenberg
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 Here’s a comprehensive overview of the pricing ranges for the electric vehicles you're interested in:
-^ Vehicle                ^ Starting Price ^ Top Price        ^ Range   ^Dealer^
+^ Vehicle                ^ Starting Price ^ Top Price        ^ Range   ^Free Charging^Dealer^
-| Volkswagen ID.4        | $41,160        | $54,600          |250mi    |Minuteman VW, Bedford MA|
+| Volkswagen ID.4        | $41,160        | $54,600          |250mi    |3 yr|Minuteman VW, Bedford MA|
-| Hyundai Ioniq 5        | $43,975        | $56,875          |303mi    |Mirak Hyundai, Arlington MA|
+| Hyundai Ioniq 5        | $43,975        | $56,875          |303mi    |2 yr|Mirak Hyundai, Arlington MA|
-| Hyundai Kona Electric  | $34,270        | $42,445          |258mi    |Mirak Hyundai, Arlington MA|
+| Hyundai Kona Electric  | $34,270        | $42,445          |258mi    |2 yr|Mirak Hyundai, Arlington MA|
-| Kia EV6                | $43,995        | $62,995          |310mi    |Herb Chambers, Burlington MA|
+| Kia EV6                | $43,995        | $62,995          |310mi    |2 yr|Herb Chambers, Burlington MA|
-| Rivian R1T             | $71,700        | $101,700         |314-400mi|New York|
+| Rivian R1T             | $71,700        | $101,700         |314-400mi|5 yr|New York|
-| Lucid Air              | $71,400        | $250,500         |520m.    |Boston|
+| Lucid Air              | $71,400        | $250,500         |520m.    |3 yr|Boston|
 === Notes ===
-- Prices can fluctuate based on dealer pricing, location, and any ongoing promotions.
+  * Free charging is at Electrify America stations (except for Rivian which has their own stations)
+  * Prices can fluctuate based on dealer pricing, location, and any ongoing promotions.
+===== Repair Ratings for Selected Electric Vehicles =====
+//Given the distance from purchase/repair options, I'm only considering those with nearby dealerships, thus VW, Hyundai, and Kia.//
+==== 1. Volkswagen ID.4 ====
+  * **Reliability Rating:** Consumer Reports predicts that the **2025 ID.4** will be **less reliable** than the average new car. This assessment is based on data from the **2021** and **2022** models.
+  * **Warranty Coverage:** The ID.4's electric components are covered for **8 years or 100,000 miles**, with a limited warranty covering **4 years or 50,000 miles**.
+==== 2. Hyundai Ioniq 5 ====
+  * **Reliability Rating:** The **2025 Ioniq 5** is also expected to be **less reliable** than the average new car, based on data from the **2022**, **2023**, and **2024** models.
+  * **User Feedback:** Many users report smooth performance and decent efficiency after **20,000 miles**, but there have been some service issues noted, such as charging interruptions.
+==== 3. Hyundai Kona Electric ====
+  * **Reliability Rating:** The Kona Electric has received mixed reviews, with some reports indicating it is **much less reliable** than the average new car. Consumer Reports has placed it in a lower reliability category based on data from the **2020** and **2021** models.
+  * **Warranty Coverage:** Hyundai offers a **three-year/36,000-mile** complimentary scheduled maintenance plan, which is a plus for owners.
+==== 4. Kia EV6 ====
+  * **Reliability Rating:** The **Kia EV6** has a reliability rating of **4.0 out of 5.0**, ranking it **3rd out of 32** for all car brands. However, Consumer Reports has noted a drop in its overall rating from **91 to 77**, primarily due to a decline in reliability from "excellent" to "average."
+  * **User Experience:** Many users appreciate Kia's approach to repairs, noting that the vehicles are designed to be simple and easy to maintain.
+==== Repair and Warranty Summary Table ====
+^ Vehicle               ^ Reliability Rating                          ^ Warranty Coverage                     ^
+| **Volkswagen ID.4**  | Less reliable than average                 | 8 years/100,000 miles (electric)    |
+| **Hyundai Ioniq 5**  | Less reliable than average                 | 3 years/36,000 miles (maintenance)  |
+| **Hyundai Kona Electric** | Much less reliable than average       | 3 years/36,000 miles (maintenance)  |
+| **Kia EV6**          | 4.0 out of 5.0 (3rd out of 32 brands)    | 3 years/36,000 miles (maintenance)  |
+----
+=====For Comparison, Pricing for Toyota Hybrid Cars=====
+==== 2025 Toyota Prius Hybrid ====
+  * **Starting Price:** Approximately **$29,485**
+  * **Price Range:** Up to **$36,500** depending on the trim and options.
+  * **Trim Examples:**
+    * **LE:** Around **$28,350**
+    * **XLE:** Approximately **$31,868**
+    * **Nightshade Edition:** Around **$34,000**
+==== 2025 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid ====
+  * **Starting Price:** From **$33,375**
+  * **Price Range:** Up to **$40,070** depending on the trim and options.
+  * **Trim Examples:**
+    * **Prius Plug-In Hybrid SE:** Starting at **$33,375**
+    * **Prius Plug-In Hybrid XSE:** Starting at **$36,625**
+    * **Prius Plug-In Hybrid XSE Premium:** Starting at **$40,070**
+==== 2025 Toyota Camry Hybrid ====
+  * **Starting Price:** Approximately **$28,700**
+  * **Price Range:** From **$28,700** to **$35,995** depending on the trim and options.
+  * **Trim Examples:**
+    * **LE:** Starting at **$28,700**
+    * **SE:** Approximately **$31,000**
+    * **XLE:** Around **$33,700**
+    * **XSE:** Starting at about **$34,900**
+==== Summary Table ====
+^ Vehicle                     ^ Starting Price  ^ Price Range     ^
+| Toyota Prius Hybrid         | $29,485         | Up to $36,500   |
+| Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid | $33,375         | Up to $40,070   |
+| Toyota Camry Hybrid         | $28,700         | Up to $35,995   |
+===== Repair Ratings for These Three Toyota Cars =====
+==== 2025 Toyota Prius Hybrid ====
+  * **Average Annual Repair Cost:** Approximately **$408**
+  * **Reliability Rating:** Generally considered to have **excellent ownership costs**. While repairs may be more frequent than average, they are typically not severe.
+  * **Consumer Rating:** Owners rated the **2025 Prius** quality a **5 out of 5**.
+==== 2025 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid ====
+  * **Reliability Expectation:** Expected to have about **average reliability** compared to other new cars.
+  * **Warranty Coverage:**
+    * Limited warranty covers **3 years or 36,000 miles**.
+    * Powertrain warranty covers **5 years or 60,000 miles**.
+    * Hybrid components are covered for **10 years or 150,000 miles**.
+==== 2025 Toyota Camry Hybrid ====
+  * **Average Annual Repair Cost:** Approximately **$388**
+  * **Reliability Rating:** Expected to have about **average reliability** compared to the average new car. Repairs are generally **less severe and less frequent** than average.
+  * **Consumer Rating:** The **2025 Camry** received an overall rating of **90**, which is slightly below the previous model's rating.
+==== Summary Table ====
+^ Vehicle                     ^ Average Annual Repair Cost  ^ Reliability Rating         ^
+| **Toyota Prius Hybrid**     | $408                        | Excellent ownership costs   |
+| **Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid** | Average reliability      | Good warranty coverage      |
+| **Toyota Camry Hybrid**     | $388                        | Average reliability         |
+====Electric Cars for Seniors====
+Extracted from 1/15/2025 [[https://ev.aaa.com/articles/electric-cars-for-seniors/|AAA article]]
+^Type^Model^Approx price^Range^Notes^
+|EV|Nissan Leaf|$28,140|212 miles|
+|EV|Hyundai Kona Electric SUV|$33,000|200-261 miles|Charges more slowly|
+|EV|Ford Mustng Mach-E|$40,000|320 miles|
+|EV|Kia EV6|$42,600|232 miles|Crossover SUV; lane-keeping guidance, forward collision warnings|
+|Hybrid|Honda Accord Hybrid Touring|$40,000|44 mpg|high deck in rear (limits visibility), sloping ceiling affects access in the rear|
+|Hybrid|Toyota Camry Hybrid|$29,000|52 mpg|